June 3, 2021
031 - Richard Howard - Pathways NZ - new Immigration New Zealand Employer Accreditation requirements - bonus episode
Send us a text This is a bonus episode because Immigration New Zealand recently announced that, effective 1 November 2021, employers who have migrant workers (visa holders) on their staff will now require to be accredited under the new Immigration New Zealand requirements. In this episode Richard Howard - Licensed Immigration Consultant - of Pathways New Zealand (based in Hamilton and Wellington) answers questions and helps allay fears some clinics may have. Richard recommends making sure y...
This is a bonus episode because Immigration New Zealand recently announced that, effective 1 November 2021, employers who have migrant workers (visa holders) on their staff will now require to be accredited under the new Immigration New Zealand requirements.
In this episode Richard Howard - Licensed Immigration Consultant - of Pathways New Zealand (based in Hamilton and Wellington) answers questions and helps allay fears some clinics may have.
Richard recommends making sure you've got all your immigration-worker I's dotted and T's crossed well before the new rules come into effect.
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This is Julie South and you're listening to Paws Claws and Wet Noses the veterinary sector podcast, celebrating.
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All creatures great and small, and they're fantabulous professionals who look after them all before I get into this week's episode, which is episode 31.
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And as a bonus one on immigration, I just wanted to tell you about a new widget that I have installed on Paws, claws, wet noses dot F M website.
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If you're on a desktop or a laptop, and if you're on a mobile, then at the bottom of the page, as I said to start with, this is a special bonus episode because you've probably seen headlines about a new immigration, New Zealand requirement that kicks into effect on the 1st of November, which affects all employers of migrant workers.
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It's just started to hit the headlines.
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Now, immigration New Zealand, is creating a new accredited employer work visa.
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This together with associated accreditation standards will be introduced on the 1st of November this year.
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But you can't start doing anything just yet, but you need to be ready for them.
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The accredited employer work visa was announced in 2019 and it replaces the six visas that it says is supposedly going to, to streamline and become a single visa process.
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This means that employers like veterinary clinics that employ overseas qualified veterinarians, and maybe you've got some nurses that are overseas qualified and, or Vitex, it now means that you will need to be an accredited employer.
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Because there's a law in New Zealand that makes it unlawful for non-licensed immigration consultants to advise about immigration matters.
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I thought it wise to chat with someone who does know what they're talking about and is a licensed immigration consultant.
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So in this bonus episode, I'm joined by pathways, New Zealand, immigration consultants, managing director, Richard Howard.
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Just like veterinarians need to be registered.
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So do immigration consultants, because there are lots of cowboys claiming to be licensed when they're not, it does pay to check.
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You can check whether someone's licensed or not.
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And in a round about way you can check their experience too, by checking it, the registration number.
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I will put the links to this on how you can do that on pause clause, where it knows it's not F M.
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Episode 31, the registration process started in 2008 with number one.
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Richard is one of new Zealand's most experienced immigration consultants.
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He has served for two years as chairman of the New Zealand association for migration and investment, Inc.
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And this was during the time when the immigration advice industry became regulated bank in 2008, he's been a member of the immigration advisors or authority industry reference group and of the graduate sort of certificate and graduate diploma in New Zealand, immigration advice, cost development and steering committees.
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Richard together with other pathways, immigration advisors regularly presents at industry continuing professional development.
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So CPD seminars and events throughout the country, I'll put links to where you can check out immigration consultants and also Richard's company website as well.
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Pathways New Zealand has offices and Hamilton and Wellington, and is one of the longest established since 1992 and most successful and reputable professional providers of New Zealand, immigration and visa services in New Zealand.
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There are 12 licensed immigration advisers collectively have over a hundred and.
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35 years of immigration related work experience and have assisted almost 20,000 people from over 100 different countries to achieve their New Zealand immigration requirements on their team.
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I three qualified lawyers and two previous immigration New Zealand offices between them.
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They're fluent in 10 languages.
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Richard joined me at very short notice.
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When I sent out an SOS invitation to be a guest here today.
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And for that I'm grateful.
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To resident visais.
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Is a 30 month work visa, which in this context of veterinary practices, uh, can be issued either because the veterinary practice is, uh, immigration, New Zealand accredited employer, or because.
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Uh, the role of veterinarian is on the long-term skill shortage list.
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All right.
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So the 30 month work to resident visa can be issued under either of those particular categories.
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The salary component is not an issue for getting the work to resident fees.
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So once you are employed on that work to resident visa for 24 months, The person can then lodge a resonance from work application.
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Now the salary at the currently the one oh six oh eight oh is important because once they have lodged a residence from work application, uh, if the applicant has that level of salary, then their residence application can be expedited.
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And, and effectively fast track for processing.
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All right.
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Normally a residents applications, both under the skilled migrant category and the resonance from work are currently taking about 22 months to process.
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In fact, the salary component is not actually a critical factor for a vent because.
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Because the vets have professional registration.
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So the criteria to have the residence application fast tracked once it's lodged is either vocational registration.
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Or the salary component.
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All right.
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So Viet said, oh, we're always going to have their rates on applications.
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Fast-track because of the vocational registration.
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So that's whether they've applied under the resonance from work or under the skilled migrant category, which is unfortunately currently suspended.
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So they can't actually apply under that category at the moment.
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The fast tracking that you were talking about.
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As not to be confused with the current water order exception.
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Okay.
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So the border correct.
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The border exception is purely what the border exemption is purely to get the, the vet through the border to start with.
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And then they enter New Zealand with effect.
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They enter new sewing with what we call a critical purpose of visitor visa.
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All right, which allows them to work in the, in the role that that supported the, the border exemption application.
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Once they're in New Zealand, they can convert that critical purpose visitor visa to outwork, to resident.
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work visa, but they still have to work in that role for two years before they can apply for a resident.
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And that's a bit of a sticking point at the moment.
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Cause normally you would be able to apply directly for residents under the skilled migrant recents category, which is the main job based resonance category, which is currently suspended.
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Richard, how is the immigration business given that new Zealand's borders are largely closed?
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Julie That's, that's really interesting.
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I mean, you know, you would think that, uh, the business would be quite slow, you know, given that the number of visa, immigration, New Zealand would normally process about 180,000.
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These are applications every month.
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And now that currently processing about 60,000 a month.
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And most of those are for people in New Zealand who are just extending or changing their visas.
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Normally there's about, I think there's probably about 400,000 visa holders and New Zealand holding, holding temporary visa.
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So the government has automatically extended.
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Significant numbers of visa holders in New Zealand.
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All right, because of the COVID situation, but there are still a significant number that still need to be, have their visa applications, uh, renewed, uh, people also changing jobs.
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So they hit and they knew U visas.
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For us, uh, we're quite strong in the investor category space.
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So we've, we've been processing a significant number of investor applications from offshore.
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We also have an interest in the, in the healthcare sector.
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So we've been bringing in.
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Uh, a significant number of doctors and medical specialists into the country because they, they can enter as other critical health workers.
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So that we're quite busy in that space.
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We're also bringing in other critical workers, not so much in the, in the vet space, but certainly in the high-level it.
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Uh, spice.
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So we're getting those people through the borders.
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There is also, and we'll probably get to it later.
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This, this focus on the new accreditation and work visa raging coming in.
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So employers particularly, uh, very, uh, interested in an understanding they're migrant workers.
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These are situation at the moment and, you know, retention of staff is, is really.
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The biggest factor with employers at the moment, given that the borders are closed?
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No, you, no, you skills really can come in.
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So we're working very closely with employers regarding their migrant workers and what we can do with their migrant workers to effectively get long-term visa security for them, given the uncertainty that's in the market at the moment.
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So overall.
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Actually, we're pretty busy.
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I cut the, from that, I don't know whether you'll be able to answer one of them and obviously I'm involved in the veterinary seat to, as you know, we are struggling to get.
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Visas and exceptions or exemptions, whatever you want to call them across and into the country, because they are sick at 106,000.
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You know, the, the limit or the threshold$106,080.
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There are many visits wanting to come to New Zealand that don't meet that threshold.
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Now, are you aware year of what the health care seek to did to get.
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The classification so that they don't have to jump through the same hurdles and hoops that the veterinary sector did way back when the, the classifications and the exceptions started to be, to come into practice.
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Okay.
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Let's, let's just clarify about the salary threshold, so, okay.
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So the, the.
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To get to get, I mean, the vets have, well, I think it's, it's big animal vets have a, have a number that, that has been approved for other critical work.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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I think they've had two, two cohorts basically.
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Um, and we had to look at that at the time and it was, there was a bit of politics around, you know, how to get those numbers.
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Um, you know, how to, how to get those invitations through, but very limited.
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All right.
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So with the other critical worker, there are two, there were two criteria to get the critical workers through the border.
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One either you have to evidence that those skills are not readily available in New Zealand and, uh, and that they are, they are basically in critical or to that the RA is important for the local or national economy, or the role is, is critical with, uh, a national project of some significant site.
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So most.
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Border exemption requests are made under the former category.
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So we basically have to evidence that that's, that skill was not readily available now.
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With that the salary component only comes into play in respect to the long term.
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So the one oh six oh eight oh salary component is, is a requirement.
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If you want to get the 12 month work visa initially.
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So if you know, there may be some projects that you're doing that, that.
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You know, it might be seasonal.
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So the vet vet's not required for the whole year.
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If you could, if you could argue that it's a seasonal requirement and the vet's only required for the six months and, and, and you can demonstrate that those skills.
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Uh, definitely not readily available in New Zealand.
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The fact that vets on the long-term skill shortage listed as obviously supportive and then endeavor, but you would still have to do the ongoing advertising to show that then you could get the bowl, the vet through the border at least have a good shot at getting the bit for vet through the border for at least that six month critical purpose.
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Visitor a visa.
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Alright.
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And argue, you know, the, the requirement for the seasonality and the short term duration.
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Okay.
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Once I ran New Zealand, then normal visa policies can apply.
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So if it then transpires that there is another role available to that vehicle, the role is going to be extended.
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Then you can just transition that visit to the, the work to residents or essential skills work visa as, as per normal.
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You know, it's still difficult to get people through the border, but, uh, if the skills are very, the more specialist, the skills, right, and the greater, the greater the need, then it's definitely worth a shot with the sick side.
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The, the seasonal, the six months criteria.
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Is there a salary threshold for that?
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No, but of course the salary is indicative of the, of the specialist.
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And high level nature of the skills.
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All right.
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So the salary component is not part of any policy there, but it's, uh, it's uh, obviously material to arguing.
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You know, that those skills are in demand.
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Let's talk about this
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new work visa and the changes that are taking place.
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What what's happening?
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What is it?
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Firstly, it, uh, comes into play on one November.
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There's not.
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A lot then employers can do before one November.
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And our view is there's nothing to be greatly concerned about here.
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All right.
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It's pretty straightforward.
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Fundamentally all employers who are employing migrant workers on employer assisted work visas must be first accredited with immigration and selling.
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Now we have a current accreditation regime at the moment.
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That is going to be replaced by this new accreditation rating.
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So basically there's three levels of accreditation, uh, standard, which is for, uh, employers employing less than six migrant workers, uh, high volume for employers employing six or more.
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And then there's a, another, uh, accreditation which will apply to labor hire companies and franchise businesses.
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Our view is that the standard accreditation is pretty much going to be an automated type regime.
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So basically tick boxes and declaration that that employer has complied with employment, law and policies and, and cetera.
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Um, you know, there's going to be about 30,000 employers that will have to become.
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Accredited.
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So that's quite a big logistical exercise from immigration and New Zealand.
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So we think that the standard accreditation will be relatively straightforward and just bearing in mind, I mentioned that.
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The accreditation is required of supporting employer assisted work phases.
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There were a whole range of work visas, which do not fall under employer assisted with thesis, for example, working holiday visa, partnership, visa, post study, work visas.
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So all of those employers can employ those people without having to become accredited first.
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The the second level of accreditation for high volume, we'll be, we'll be more involved and who have a requirement that the employers have to.
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Effectively support the migrant workers, relocation settlement like that.
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There, there was something in the, in the, in the wording that employers have to show a commitment to increase wages for new Zealanders.
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So how that manifests itself in policy wording, we'll just have to wait and see the, and then the, the franchise, uh, labor, Ohio.
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Uh, accreditation will be more robust because that's where immigration sees, uh, the more likelihood of migrant exploitation and that at the end of the day, what's, what's this accreditation process all about.
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So at this stage, I don't, I don't think there's anything that employers need to be overly concerned about.
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You can't do anything about it at the moment.
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Apparently accreditation applications will open towards the end of September.
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So for any work visas being applied for after.
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One November, the employer has to first be a credited.
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All right.
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And that's the main thing that we need to understand the other point, which is relevant.
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Is that okay?
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After one November, there will be one work visa, and that will replace nice.
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The essential skills, the work, the resident visas that we talked about initially, and a critical employer and a long-term skill shortage, and, and some Lisa categories, silver fin visas, and citrus, the work to residents, uh, Ray SIEM.
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We understand we'll continue.
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With the new policy, but the salary threshold will go to two times the medium wage, which currently is that one oh six oh eight.
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Oh, figure.
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We expect that to go to maybe 112,000.
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So the current threshold for a credit and employer.
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Recent since 79, five six.
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So, but, so that's quite a significant jump.
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Any employers who are accredited and have workers earning above that 79, five six.
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So, you know, our advice at this stage has to transition as many of those workers onto the work to recent visa to secure their future residence pathway.
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The other advice is.
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Introduction of new policies, such as this, uh, likely to result or, you know, insignificant processing delays and teething problems.
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And so we don't think it's an employer's interest to be thinking about, you know, you work visas in that November to March probably period.
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Our advice is very much for employees to be looking at their migrant workers at the moment, looking at their visa status.
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Doing what they can pre one November to extend.
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Or in you, their, their workers visas you know, at least out to the three years to get over the likely challenges of the new policy.
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And then also that would avoid them having to get accreditation immediately because you only need the accreditation when you are going to be applying for the new work visa.
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So yeah, I try and avoid the need to get the accreditation immediately because every.
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Every man and his dog will be lining up to do that.
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How Richard, how do you think this is?
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All these changes are going to impact veterinary clinics and the veterinary sector going forward?
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Well, I think there will be any great impacts.
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Uh, in that sector, I think that there will be, I think many, many clinics would not have been Inc accredited anyway, because they, they didn't need to be because the vets had the work to reasons option under the long-term skill shortage.
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Right.
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That will be something new for them.
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But I mean, the policy hasn't been, hasn't been published and probably won't be for another.
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You know, four or five months.
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So, you know, the requirements of the accreditation and the process and the timing we don't, we don't know what that's gonna look like, but I'm sure immigration New Zealand will be trying to, to make the process as efficient as possible because it's in their interest to do so.
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So, so long as all their employment documentation is compliant.
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I don't think there's anything for them to be overly concerned about.
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There'll be plenty of publicity about what to do and when to do it.
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And as I said, you know, if they can look at renewing or extending all their work visa holders before one November, then they will take the heat out of the situation.
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And there's plenty of time for them to go through that process and their own time later, that was my next question is what do they need to do?
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So it's to look at who they've got on their teams right now.
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And the visa type and to, to put plans into, or steps into process.
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Is that correct?
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Yeah.
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I mean, um, you know, they may have support staff or admin staff or, you know, vet nurses and whatever that obviously aren't on the, on the long-term skill shortage list.
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So therefore they have to go through the process of advertising the roles and doing the labor market check and applying for new visas for those people.
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If those fees are expiring, I mean, our view is if the work visas are expiring in the next year, say to the end of June next year, then it would be in their interest to renew those phases now.
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And before one November immigration changes are you expecting to happen?
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Okay.
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Well, the biggie at the moment is it's the skilled migrant category.
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So as I say, that's the main job based reasons category.
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So normally half of recent applications are made under the skilled migrant category.
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